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		<title>By: Beth Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 04:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You inspired me to [finally] blog on how to use a PR degree to enter another field: http://elizabethlloydevans.blogspot.com/2008/12/where-art-and-public-relations.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You inspired me to [finally] blog on how to use a PR degree to enter another field: <a href="http://elizabethlloydevans.blogspot.com/2008/12/where-art-and-public-relations.html" rel="nofollow">http://elizabethlloydevans.blogspot.com/2008/12/where-art-and-public-relations.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Isaacs PR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaacs PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kelli, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am finishing up an integrated Marcom degree, while just starting a PR consulting practice. Right now, my business model is simple: use my company blog to drive site traffic to my company website (once that company website is complete!)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have tried earnestly to land internships in PR, but to no avail. But the crazy thing is, now I want to switch from PR to broadcast journalism. Since PR is somewhat the &quot;business side&quot; of journalism, I feel ready to work from the other side of the table. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In fact, I think PR is best for people who didn&#039;t intend to be in it. Because life is all about starting out on one path and ending up on an even better one.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;- Zack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelli, </p>
<p>I am finishing up an integrated Marcom degree, while just starting a PR consulting practice. Right now, my business model is simple: use my company blog to drive site traffic to my company website (once that company website is complete!)</p>
<p>I have tried earnestly to land internships in PR, but to no avail. But the crazy thing is, now I want to switch from PR to broadcast journalism. Since PR is somewhat the &#8220;business side&#8221; of journalism, I feel ready to work from the other side of the table. </p>
<p>In fact, I think PR is best for people who didn&#8217;t intend to be in it. Because life is all about starting out on one path and ending up on an even better one.</p>
<p>- Zack</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelli, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great post! My suggestion to those looking to break into PR, is to start out working for &quot;the other side&quot; or media. It is a great way to understand the media before you pitch them. However, this is becoming more difficult given the economic downturn.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Aspiring PRos can dive into social media from a non PR perspective. They can write a blog, set up a Facebook profile and begin tweeting away. Even experimenting with video and web design can also give them an edge. Many PR graduates tend to focus on more traditional techniques, and social media skills can set someone apart. I know this from personal experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelli, </p>
<p>Great post! My suggestion to those looking to break into PR, is to start out working for &#8220;the other side&#8221; or media. It is a great way to understand the media before you pitch them. However, this is becoming more difficult given the economic downturn.</p>
<p>Aspiring PRos can dive into social media from a non PR perspective. They can write a blog, set up a Facebook profile and begin tweeting away. Even experimenting with video and web design can also give them an edge. Many PR graduates tend to focus on more traditional techniques, and social media skills can set someone apart. I know this from personal experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Camen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Camen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kelli, Great post. Networking and interning while in college can easily make up for not having a degree in public relations. Like others above, I&#039;m an example of that. In college I studied Human Communication, but had three internships in publicity and public relations and a part time job at a local paper. Everything I learned about PR was from my hands on experience in college. I&#039;ve been working at my first PR position for almost the last two years. Every day I learn something new about the industry, trends, and techniques. I love it. I&#039;m a classic example of someone who did not graduate with a 4.0 and a degree in PR, but my networking persistence and willingness to learn keeps paving the way for me to have wonderful opportunities.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One tip I would like to share is while you’re networking and getting general experience in college, find a mentor. A mentor could be a professor, a boss, or really anyone in the industry. Mentors aren’t going to do things for you, but they are going to guide you in the right direction. These are people with a wealth of experience or knowledge who know what it takes to make it.  I owe everything to my mentors who have helped me out with internships and giving me career advice. These people will always be with me throughout my career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelli, Great post. Networking and interning while in college can easily make up for not having a degree in public relations. Like others above, I&#8217;m an example of that. In college I studied Human Communication, but had three internships in publicity and public relations and a part time job at a local paper. Everything I learned about PR was from my hands on experience in college. I&#8217;ve been working at my first PR position for almost the last two years. Every day I learn something new about the industry, trends, and techniques. I love it. I&#8217;m a classic example of someone who did not graduate with a 4.0 and a degree in PR, but my networking persistence and willingness to learn keeps paving the way for me to have wonderful opportunities.</p>
<p>One tip I would like to share is while you’re networking and getting general experience in college, find a mentor. A mentor could be a professor, a boss, or really anyone in the industry. Mentors aren’t going to do things for you, but they are going to guide you in the right direction. These are people with a wealth of experience or knowledge who know what it takes to make it.  I owe everything to my mentors who have helped me out with internships and giving me career advice. These people will always be with me throughout my career.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelli Matthews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelli Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Danny, PRJack, Richie &amp; Alex. I love to hear people&#039;s stories about how they ended up in their career (PR or otherwise). People have interesting lives and you four are no exception. I love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Danny, PRJack, Richie &amp; Alex. I love to hear people&#39;s stories about how they ended up in their career (PR or otherwise). People have interesting lives and you four are no exception. I love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kelli,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I stumbled onto this post after seeing some of the tweets about one student&#039;s reaction to this piece.  I think this is a great post and definitely great advice for anyone looking to break into PR (whether they have a degree in PR or not).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I personally am another &quot;fell into PR&quot; person (my degree is in Political Science).  I interned at a PR Firm the summer after my freshman year, enjoyed it, and was offered a job with that same firm when I graduated college.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As with all professions, there is no reason that you absolutely &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to major in order to work in a certain field (my parents old accountant has a degree in biology).  I&#039;m glad to see you helping people who have an interest in PR find a way to work in a field they are truly interested in.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelli,</p>
<p>I stumbled onto this post after seeing some of the tweets about one student&#8217;s reaction to this piece.  I think this is a great post and definitely great advice for anyone looking to break into PR (whether they have a degree in PR or not).</p>
<p>I personally am another &#8220;fell into PR&#8221; person (my degree is in Political Science).  I interned at a PR Firm the summer after my freshman year, enjoyed it, and was offered a job with that same firm when I graduated college.</p>
<p>As with all professions, there is no reason that you absolutely <i>have</i> to major in order to work in a certain field (my parents old accountant has a degree in biology).  I&#8217;m glad to see you helping people who have an interest in PR find a way to work in a field they are truly interested in.</p>
<p>-Alex</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kelli, great post and I think that volunteering and networking are excellent suggestions to getting one&#039;s foot in the door. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I didn&#039;t get a PR degree, my degree is in Communication Studies. I fell into education PR (I&#039;m a communications specialist for a k12 public school district in Texas) - prior to entering the PR ranks I didn&#039;t even know school districts had (or needed) PR.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My additional thought would be to look outside the obvious organizational/business/agency PR needs for a possible fit for your skills and interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelli, great post and I think that volunteering and networking are excellent suggestions to getting one&#8217;s foot in the door. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t get a PR degree, my degree is in Communication Studies. I fell into education PR (I&#8217;m a communications specialist for a k12 public school district in Texas) &#8211; prior to entering the PR ranks I didn&#8217;t even know school districts had (or needed) PR.</p>
<p>My additional thought would be to look outside the obvious organizational/business/agency PR needs for a possible fit for your skills and interest.</p>
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		<title>By: PRJack</title>
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		<dc:creator>PRJack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a clear example of &#039;falling&#039; into PR. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My university degrees are a Bachelor of Science specializing in Zoology and a Master of Science in Animal Behaviour. My MSc thesis was on the reproductive biology and included several years of field work. My dream was to be a prof... alas, the &#039;publish or perish&#039; mentality that existed back then, coupled with the need to do a PhD, and a Post Doctorate before coming close to teaching dissuaded me from the ivory towers. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As I was completing my thesis I got a job at &#039;The Ex Terry Foundation&#039;... a non-profit org that had organized the first expeditions to Inner Mongolia by Western Scientist and was then going to be mounting the worlds largest traveling dinosaur museum - The Dinosaur Project. I was a sponge learning from the Dir of Comm and after restructuring and departures the Exec Dir came to me one day and said &#039;You like this Media and PR stuff, don&#039;t you?&#039; I replied, &#039;yeah, I do.&#039; &#039;O.k. then. You&#039;re our PR Manager.&#039; At which point I had to go find out (in a pre-internet world) what PR was!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; Along the way I discovered that I had gained skills that were well suited to PR and MarComm... the ability to go from complex to understandable, to de-jargonize,  to speak and present logically and emphatically, and to tailor messaging to the needs of a particular audience. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And best of all? I now teach a PR module as part of an integrated Mar Comm certification course. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Who knew you could get all that from watching spiders make babies?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a clear example of &#8216;falling&#8217; into PR. </p>
<p>My university degrees are a Bachelor of Science specializing in Zoology and a Master of Science in Animal Behaviour. My MSc thesis was on the reproductive biology and included several years of field work. My dream was to be a prof&#8230; alas, the &#8216;publish or perish&#8217; mentality that existed back then, coupled with the need to do a PhD, and a Post Doctorate before coming close to teaching dissuaded me from the ivory towers. </p>
<p>As I was completing my thesis I got a job at &#8216;The Ex Terry Foundation&#8217;&#8230; a non-profit org that had organized the first expeditions to Inner Mongolia by Western Scientist and was then going to be mounting the worlds largest traveling dinosaur museum &#8211; The Dinosaur Project. I was a sponge learning from the Dir of Comm and after restructuring and departures the Exec Dir came to me one day and said &#8216;You like this Media and PR stuff, don&#8217;t you?&#8217; I replied, &#8216;yeah, I do.&#8217; &#8216;O.k. then. You&#8217;re our PR Manager.&#8217; At which point I had to go find out (in a pre-internet world) what PR was!</p>
<p> Along the way I discovered that I had gained skills that were well suited to PR and MarComm&#8230; the ability to go from complex to understandable, to de-jargonize,  to speak and present logically and emphatically, and to tailor messaging to the needs of a particular audience. </p>
<p>And best of all? I now teach a PR module as part of an integrated Mar Comm certification course. </p>
<p>Who knew you could get all that from watching spiders make babies?!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kelli,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great to see someone with a degree confirming that while it&#039;s definitely helpful, it doesn&#039;t mean the end of the road if you don&#039;t have one. More openness like this needs to be shared by the PR industry in general, instead of the &quot;clique&quot; nature it seems to have a lot of the time.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I spoke to a class of Corporate Communications students recently who were looking to have a career in PR. As someone who doesn&#039;t have a degree in PR myself - my background is in corporate business with an Associate of Marketing degree - one of the recommendations I made was to take a summer job in customer service.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why that and not a PR internship? I just feel that many prospective PR professionals can be out off with the mundane life that PR often is - it&#039;s not all photo shoots with celebrity clients, or champagne parties! ;-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dealing with irate customers learns you patience, empathy, understanding of what can go wrong and how to handle problems - all key in succeeding in PR.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Additionally, isn&#039;t PR just an extension of customer service? We&#039;re here to service the client - whether that&#039;s brand promotion, press releases, prepping for media interviews, etc.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sadly too many agencies and professionals seem to have forgotten this and simply look for the fast buck. A reason why the industry has such a negative view from the outside.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hopefully the new breed of PR professionals coming through can work with the current professionals that are trying to implement change. Otherwise we may get to the stage where it won&#039;t matter if you do or don&#039;t have a PR degree - there&#039;ll be no recognizable industry to work in.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for a great post. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kelli,</p>
<p>Great to see someone with a degree confirming that while it&#8217;s definitely helpful, it doesn&#8217;t mean the end of the road if you don&#8217;t have one. More openness like this needs to be shared by the PR industry in general, instead of the &#8220;clique&#8221; nature it seems to have a lot of the time.</p>
<p>I spoke to a class of Corporate Communications students recently who were looking to have a career in PR. As someone who doesn&#8217;t have a degree in PR myself &#8211; my background is in corporate business with an Associate of Marketing degree &#8211; one of the recommendations I made was to take a summer job in customer service.</p>
<p>Why that and not a PR internship? I just feel that many prospective PR professionals can be out off with the mundane life that PR often is &#8211; it&#8217;s not all photo shoots with celebrity clients, or champagne parties! <img src='http://www.prosintraining.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dealing with irate customers learns you patience, empathy, understanding of what can go wrong and how to handle problems &#8211; all key in succeeding in PR.</p>
<p>Additionally, isn&#8217;t PR just an extension of customer service? We&#8217;re here to service the client &#8211; whether that&#8217;s brand promotion, press releases, prepping for media interviews, etc.</p>
<p>Sadly too many agencies and professionals seem to have forgotten this and simply look for the fast buck. A reason why the industry has such a negative view from the outside.</p>
<p>Hopefully the new breed of PR professionals coming through can work with the current professionals that are trying to implement change. Otherwise we may get to the stage where it won&#8217;t matter if you do or don&#8217;t have a PR degree &#8211; there&#8217;ll be no recognizable industry to work in.</p>
<p>Thanks for a great post. <img src='http://www.prosintraining.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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